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What is love?
Is there a universal definition?
What does it mean to be "in love" ?
Imagine all KBWers were secretly asked to define love, sans the aid of a dictionary/bible. What is the probability that they would all define love as the same thing? In all likelihood, there would be individual discrepancies. I shall use this backdrop to answer in the AFFIRMATIVE a question that was posed by Klara:
"Is it possible to Love someone u have never physically met? Lately been feelin closer to this guy n yet we havent met..."
Before I explain why my answer is an EMPHATIC YES, I suspect one thing:
Klara is NOT ALONE. There are people on this very KBW who "feel each other", who profess love for each other, but keep it on the down low because frankly: It is NYOB !! It is upon the two parties to reveal or not to ...
Let's face it; blogosphere is also an arena of life where love can be fostered. Now, back to the question I posed earlier on. If you agree that different peeps would define love in different ways, then it goes without saying that we cannot legitimately judge/criticize/castigate any one who claims to have fallen in love with a fellow blogger. They are simply practicing love the way they understand it!!
The same way a dream has no limits, so is the realm of love. Chochote chaweza kufanyika. People have been known to meet in all sorts of ways and manner. Infatuation can be with someone seated next 2 you in the room. Same thing with obsession. It's a world of relativity. I challenge anyone to tell me a SPECIFIC characteristic of THIS KIND OF LOVE that automatically lends it to FAILURE. It will be TRIVIAL to show how most, if not all of these characteristics are not unique to "BLOGOPHILIA". Ball is in your court folks ... am so spoiling for an argument:
woof!! woof!!
To each his/her own. Rather than negativity and suspicion and pessimism, why not SUPPORT and ENCOURAGE budding lovers?
Ok, let the cynics get out of dem closets .... come on out ...
ps: In case y'all wonder why mwangi is so vehemently arguing in favour of love by any means, let me save you the trouble. I am IN LOVE with a blogger - and yes - SHE KNOWS IT and yes - SHE LOVES ME TOO. And yes, am brutal with my honesty like that - kiroho safi.
posted by jm at 10:32 PM
83 Comments:
usiniambie mi ndo fao!!!off to read!
As I said in Klaras post it is possible to like someones blog style and it can actually be the begining of something but unless you meet them or interact on a more direct level you may only be flirting with a carefully crafted illusion since most of us dont reveal our true selves online.
@ boyflani: sawa ...
@ kirima:i guess we are in agreement on the fundamental level ... that is the crux of my argument:
"can love be sown from such unexpected beginnings?"
si hiyo ni obvious? u can't kamata rubs anonymously!!
very true kirima...most of us illusion and blogging is a form of art in which we can portray a totally different illusion of ourselves.but me am gonna go public abt my one love...and Mwangi...u're really in love?
@ boyflani: ha!! i was waiting 4 that argument ... lemme dismantle it ...
you think blogging is more of an art form than real lyfe? I kn. so many chicks who have met a jamaa countless times, and the guy fronted this or that personality 2 get into mami's pants ... halafu by and by ... the sheep's clothing came off revealing the true dude!! It is easy even in real life ... to put an illusion ... but also easier 2 get discovered ... and
PLEASE NOTE:
I AM NOT ARGUING THAT A RELATIONSHIP CAN BE SUSTAINED INDEFINITELY BILA THE TWO PEOPLE MEETING. JUST THAT WE CANNOT DISMISS THE POSSIBILITY OF LOVE EXISTING BY VIRTUE OF IT STARTING VIRTUALLY!! WHAT'S MORE, IF CIRCUMSTANCES DO NOT PERMIT AN IMMEDIATE PHYSICAL CONTACT, IT NEED NOT BE AN IMPEDIMENT ... for in that case, virtual love is then akin to an LD - hard but not impossible.
True Mwangi, I agree that meeting online is one of the new ways for people meet each other just like meeting in church, school, club etc. only that online you dont get the 'at first sight' feeling.
I guess if you are on like that e-flirt could end up with real love but you still have to cross the divide from the digital to the physical first.
u can use everything to justify it, i know. and there cn be no end to such an argument...i know its great, i have had a blind date and let me tell u its more fun than real life drama...virtuality and the danger of it is the fuel n fervor that such 'love' feeds on to keep it burning. all the best but make sure yu dont put all your egggs in one basket...
Mwas you're IN LOVE? LOLSES
I'm loving this post...can't wait to see what it provokes hehe
I shall be on the sideline watching seeing as my love thoughts and ideas are truly rusty thus my lips are sealed
@ boyflani ...
i was following your advice until u said: "make sure yu dont put all your egggs in one basket..."
If by this u mean what i think u mean ... thx but no thx ... am happy with my one basket ... and i'll happily prove you wrong ...
I'm happy for you Mwangi..that's awesome!!!
mebe u got me wrong, mebe u was right, but i probly meant that u dont bank all your hope of it being yua ultimate on the brighter side of the situation...shed some light on the darker side of it and live on the edge...incase of anything(in italics.)
As I said at Klara's, it is possible to fall in love virtually...staying in depends on the two of you and all that stuff that defines relationships. Lemme join Pretty on the sideline and watch the debate unfold.
tu es tombé vraiment, non? hehehe cool!
my alarm dint work!!! silly time diff> am pissed! ati 14th...wacha i soma.
@ P: :)
@ boyflani: i see what u mean now ... cautious optimism ... fair enuff!!
@ prettylyf: dive right in acha uoga!!
@ komi: see prettylyf above ...
@ chatterly: L'amour est beau, l'amour est fou. :)
@ betty: kuchelewa kwingi utakuta mwana si wako !!
I agree with Kirima, Komi and Boyflani. It is possible to meet someone virtually and you both begin to fancy each other. Maybe you have lots in common, you understand each other and somehow feelings get involved. Well and good. It has happened before and has led to successful real life relationships.
But that does not necessarily mean that everything will automatically fall into place once you guys meet in person. Therefore it's important not to be too optimistic coz you never know what lies ahead. Be cautiously optimistic.
But as I've said, virtual/online relationships have led to successful personal relationships in real life, so who knows! Perhaps this is the beginning of a budding romance!
Eh, Chatterly, should we also come out of the closet and tell the world about our secret plan to save money and elope to Cayman Islands, have three kids and live happily ever after?
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sob sob...you are gone from me!!!
On a serious though, I am vehemently cynical about love and anything that comes close to it. One day I may be proven wrong but I’m highly convicted that being in love with another is a choice that can be switched on and off like the very light bulbs that direct our darkest paths…I stand corrected!
I agree with Archer who agreed with Kirima, Komi and boyflani - elove has to be natured in the real world.
real world here meaning face to face emotional and physical interaction between the two love birds.
in my opinion one can be infatuated by another blogger to the extent of feeling love like emotions. but until they meet that person in flesh - I would keep away from the 'in love' definition
@Quintessence - I am still here :)
@ Archer: I mostly agree with your comments ... but being a risk-taker means disappointment and reward are forever precariously balanced ... you have to take the good with the bad but most vitally, you have to go for WHAT YOU BELIEVE ...
@ Q: Hehe, sadly yes. Your description of love is a tad apocalyptic ... but I can see where you are coming from. What if you consider it not as an electric switch, but rather a fuel driven light ... each party holds the other's light and has to fuel it in order to navigate the love conundrum??
@ 3N: Infatuation is not unique to virtual relationships. You can be infatuated with someone in the same room as you, so that argument carries little water in this case ...
I did not mean that infatuation is what elove can only be, I meant that it is more likely that a blogger is infatuated with someone rather than in love before they meet them.
this holds true in face to face interactions, you first get infatuated with someone and eventually you fall in love.
and I guess that can happen in the virtual world but I don't believe or subscribe to the theory of loving someone virtually without even once seeing, feeling, touching them physically.
Hot debate over here.
Like Prettylyf and Komi am watching from the sidelines....
i believe elove is very possible, as Mwas said,the def. of love differs and if Mwangi's feelings towards the blogger he is yet to reveal are strong enuff for him to define it as love then i say..go for it, wish you both the best and my sincere happiness for you,from huko deep deep corner ya heart!
What i think everyone is forgetting is that not everyone considers a person's physical looks important in determining whether or not the r/ship (from friend to other)will move a step mbele and anyway its obvious that there are mbicas involved and even with the risk of either party sending their fly pals picha instead>>thats just one of the kawa risks, even in normal face to face rships kuna risks zake.
I think if u've taken enough time to learn each other by whatever means-phone,email,chat bla bla...have developed feelings of whateva kind towards that person, i don't see what's stopping you both.
Love is a beautiful thing, rships are always trys-x..let's love and be loved and see what becomes of it, there are no laws to love..love in whichever way you can.There are no laws to happiness,if she makes you happy from 10000miles away then smile and live longer!
Forgive my speech.
@unyc - you know what would be really funny, if two bloggers were in love with the same guy / chile and they didn't know...
I am crossing my fingers!!
come on archer, i thought we settled for 4 children...you know i dont like odd numbers :-(
@ 3n: you are very likely to be disappointed ...
@ Unyc: see pretty above ... dive in :)
@ betty: watu wa Mungu waseme Amen!!
@ chatterly: ati kii?
In love? that's funny. I agree with 3N's comment. I thought men took their time to declare their love, but you seemed to have jumped in with no reservation. Kudos! and all the best!
@ phassie: tihiii ... am laughing with you - NOT. I am a non-comformist, but thx 4 the wishes ...
@Chatterly: we can think about having a fourth toi while sipping on some pinya konyandas, ama?
@archer-of course...pinya konyanda anytime:-)
Archer and chatterly go make some babies already!Pinya kolandas are on the house if u hurry up!
My thoughts? Whether the initial contact was by internet, phone, email, good ol' letter writing (kumbuka penpals?) or actual physical meeting, due diligence should be exercised. Chances are extremely high that you won't ever get the real person initially. Some acting will be in place. Only after continued interaction will the real individual come to light. So I say go forth in your love, but with cautious optimism as said by several.
It seems most peeps agree it is possible to hook up online which I agree too and I'm sure most people actually reveal their true self in media where they can be anonymous unless they choose to deliberately mislead you. But I still insist if you want to get the real deal you must use all your 5 common senses to experience that other person.
What if that 'Giga'hunk you were expecting ends up being just a 'kilo'wimp.
One can love a blogger and not be IN love with a blogger, isn't that possible too?
Irena, you raise a good point. Yes one can love a blogger but not be IN LOVE with the blogger
@ egm: we agree on every single point that you have raised ...
@ Kirima: true, true but not necessarily ...
@ Irena : that is also a possibility ...
@ 3n: i don't think Irena meant what you thought she meant ... she postulated ... you are declaring ...
I am kidogo confused, she postulated meaning she implied to be true that
"One can love a blogger and not be IN love with a blogger"
and I merely confirmed that it is indeed the case, true that one can love without being IN love with a blogger.
maybe I am missing something here...
3N:
Based on your earlier comments, I took your comments to mean that IT'S POSSIBLE TO LOVE A BLOGGER BUT IMPOSSIBLE TO BE IN LOVE WITH THEM.
My bad if that's not what you intended to say ...
@Betty: don't you see that my avatar and Chatterly's are strategically positioned for that sole purpose?
Now this debate is becoming a matter of semantics.
And coming in at number......
What is love?God is love. Rubbish, okay yes, He is, but that is not where you are going with this right?
Can you land for someone you have never met? Tricky. I think you can but there are no guarantees that "the person you have landed for" is "who the person is". We all have the potential to be anyone we want to be or potray ourselves to be- in the virtual world. So yes, you can fall for that "virtual person".
And just to be stupid I will ask the question.....how many people who walk around saying they Love God have seen him. Not that God has a blog...(the voices have started blogging now!)But also just because you can not see your brain, does not mean you don't have one siyu?
There is much weight in meeting the person.However if that can not happen because the world is not such a small place after all.........then who is to say, that you are not in love? But how do you learn to trust someone you have never met?Just asking.
I think great " relationships" can start out in the blogosphere just like they can anywhere else.
Online relationships are interesting. The only true test is when you finally meet and interact with each other on regular terms. UNtil there, it is very possible that a lot is an illusion. Its little things, you don't know if (s)he sits badly, if (s)he eats with mouth open, if (s)he has BO, if (s)he kisses well, interaction with other people. Be prepared for that-- we all sound different on the phone and via email. Prepare yourself. And when it passes all the above tests and many others.. then u can be sure you are in love.
At the same time, Mwangi you are in love right now, don't doubt your feelings.. love like you have never loved before. Just be prepared to have your love tested in ways you never thought possible.
@ 3 TYPES + Majonzi: Kwani mlikuwa wapi?? Those comments were just mwaaah ... spotless!!
3types of crazy>hear hear!!
I think its possible to be attracted to a blogger in this space. Masks are worn, peeps show only the sides they wish to be seen in public and hide their flaws their shortcomings etc.
I think i am more of a face to face person and before i grow into love past the infatuation i guess i need to have some sort of contact and lots of interaction face to face.
The initial phase is adequately fostered by the chat and VOIP thing after that there needs to be some contact for me to develop any further feelings for this person.
Aegeus!
completely agree with jiiwe!!
Jiwe:
"I think its possible to be attracted to a blogger in this space. Masks are worn, peeps show only the sides they wish to be seen in public and hide their flaws their shortcomings etc. "
Once again you make the mistaken assumption that illusions can only be created virtually!! In its most rudimentary intepretation, the proverbial mask is even more necessary when you are meeting face to face if one desires to hide something ... as it is, you haven't really portrayed anything unique to virtual interactions, everything you mentioned happens everyday btn peeps interacting face 2 face ...
maze Mwangi, I have been here.. lakini was bilaz on your post :). All the best with her.
Mwangi, let me try to answer for jiwe before (s)he gets back.
No one is implying that face to face interactions guarantee that there is no masking of one character, such an assumption would be indeed ignorant.
But it is easier to mask yourself when the person you are hiding info from does not have the privilege of looking into your eyes and judging for themselves whether what you are selling is indeed real.
One can go out with someone for months and still get duped, it has happened a lot. I just think the probability increases for that when it is a virtual meeting and interaction.
A good point my friend. Now i am extremely intuitive and when i meet you face to face i clue in on what you are and what you are about and any masks that you wear i can see through.
I have learnt in my IOM Psych course that lying is much easily done through the phone. Have you walked into your boss' office and straight out told him you were sick when you were not? You do it via the phone or even better send an sms, even in those cases if a person knows you well they will know if you are lying since there are some words you shall use and alter usage when you are fibbing.
This does show that on written media your tells are fewer than when you are actually participating and are face to face with the person. I have my tells which of course i can mask since i know about them - then there are others that i cannot - dilating pupils, raised heart rate - fidgets etc. See if we are communicating on chat that is unavailable for you to asses - body language. It shows more than we are willing to or we can manipulate it to our advantage.
Discomfort, attraction, folded arms among others and how we sit or stand tones in the voice, etc, think about it, do you know this other persons mannerisms? Have you met them when they have had a long day, when they are frustrated, what is their temperament, lets see you guess mine, do i have a short fuse, my core vales, that you have observed are worth more than what i will state since words are cheap.
Now do you see what i am talking about? I do not disagree it can be the onset of a great relationship, just that love requires more data to process before you can truly state it beyond a reasonable doubt. Or should we go back and differentiate infatuation, lust and love?
Oops this is a post! Sorry! :-)I hope i illuminated you? It is easier to create them virtually in summary...
Aegeus!
Awwwww! 3N you are such an angel for having my back. Thanks! I could not have put it better myself. I see my comment has taken on a life of its own!
Aegeus!
3N: Now we are talking!!
We have now shifted to probability from possibilities ... the former is more likely ... and moreover, any two relationships are INDEPENDENT of each other, so probability wise, probably the best estimate we can give for the chance of success and failure is 0.5 = fail ; and 0.5 = succeed
Any other random assignment cannot b elegitimate ... it's like flipping a coin multiple times ...
Now that the questions arises whether when you meet the person in reality whether the blogging persona "real" prevails in the outside world? . In my case( Nope I'm not n love with a blogger but I love a friend who is a blogger, does that count:-). I have met a few bloggers whose names shall not be named at the moment and discovered that they are the same witty, nice peeps and have most of their persona that they potray on their blogs likable, witty , serious etc.
So if someone falls for a blogger and then communicates extends from blog, text messaging, phone calls and chat via skype etc, one is likely to fall in love,now the question of whether the same magic will prevails when the two meet face to face maybe yes perhaps because I'm sure before getting to that point one may have seen some pics etc to affirm the attraction.
Now, if he/she is a good kisser and all other stuff = well sijui! Never know till one finds out and the best bet if it is true feelings, then that is the risk the two are willing to take. I would :-)
@Mwangi...speak English not in statistics 101 ..you lose me when you go technical :-)
Jiwe:
"infatuation, lust and love"
It is not necessary to revisit these. Let us dwell on the love.
Now you raise some very valid points but they are TRADITIONALIST, highly FORMULAIC, and FRAGILE before the test of LOGIC.
By traditionalist, I mean almost cliche - that is, the most natural arguments to make for whosoever is a "non-believer" (excuse the term)
FORMULAIC because to me, there is no legislature for love. Love and its attendant manifestations is random, has its reasons that even the mind cannot reason with. It permeates the conscious and the subconscious and is UNIQUE to individuals.
Which brings me to LOGIC:
If love is a unique feeling, that is, only I and my lover can tell what we feel 4 each other ... this automatically renders external benchmarks redundant to my situation. At best, such "universal benchmarks" can be useful personality GUIDES but RARELY definitive manuals - 4 no such manual exists!!
Physical Contact is DEFINITELY crucial, but is NOT the be and all of the genesis of love. If so, that I would call lust!!
Am sorry Irena ... I'll stick to Kingoso :)
Lets see...
Traditionalistic...not really, how? illustrate. You lost me on that one. Less words more meaning. Is love not a traditional feeling i.e. long established? Lol!
Formulaic...based on a set of rules...where did i say that? i have failed to locate where on this one too...the formula works for all human interaction and has not failed me yet. Eleza pia.
Fragile in logic?...love itself is fragile...its nature is fickle since at times i have found that it is difficult to pinpoint why it is that you love this person but when you really look deep into it you shall see why..the way he/she smiles moves does something, says your name yadda yadda...
Then you qualify that love is unique to you....lets see...i have been in love a couple (twice for those murderers of english) and it was different both times in a way that i cannot describe. Both were deep ... long lasting and those relationships were great to be in. Humans live in the touch, you say hello shake hands hug etc, i wonder why? Do you lust for your pals?
I take my seat across the floor and leave it open for others. Spent too much valuable time here already!
A good beginning it is. Brilliant! From then shall it develop into a long distance relationship...do those work or shall you be together soon?
The Aged one takes his seat while fondling his white beard not to rise again his wisdom imparted. Young 'uns hebu answer for me in case the kind Mwangi requires further clarification.
Aegeus out!
Aegeus: You are right in defining love as a traditional feeling but you are addressing a totally different issue.
By traditionalist, I meant "stubbornly conservative" and unwilling to "accomodate paradigm shifts". The "body language" test is necessary I agree ... BUT it is not like the virtual relationship goes on virtually into perpetuity!! Your argument can only hold if I was saying something like this:
"I am in love with a blogger and it doesn't matter if we ever meet or not. I will continue to love her till the day I die ..."
This teeters on the absurd and it is not what I am suggesting. I am merely challenging the notion that love can only sprout when 2 peeps have already met. It's important I make that clear ...
*watching in silence*
jiwe/aegeus..lol na wewe, i think he got it loud and clear..u took ure seat coz ure mouth went dry?dehydration from elemishaing the masses.
Betty toka tukuone.
hahaha enjoy
Mwangi am saving the best for last.
Mwangi my son.
....This teeters on the absurd and it is not what I am suggesting. I am merely challenging the notion that love can only sprout when 2 peeps have already met. It's important I make that clear .......
**nodding head in agreement**
I see my work here is done! Ptuh!! **spits out a glob of tobacco he had been chewing on to the ground in front of him [guess what that means...anyone?]**
Betty my dear, i am the Methuselah, the rock of Aegeus, i live in a castle, i had my 1024th birthday recently..fill in the blanks...hhehehehehehe!! Cough! Cough!!
Aegeus!
at a staggering 62, i think how the initial contact happens its up to the couple to take it from there. am with EGM that all precautions are to be taken. Love to me is a verb(doing word). virtual love is a possibility...
bloggers wengi hapa wameongea kama watu fifty, majonzi ameongea kama watu 51, jiwe of aegeus, kama watu mia moja (no spitting on the blogosphere)
eish, LOVE!
i don't think you can fall in love online...you can like...or more than like, if you want, lakini love...bilaz!
how do you love something you can't see?
love something you can't touch, feel, smell? (God you can feel just in case you want to sshoot me down)
i can like you online...i can even 'dream' of what it could be like, lakini...not love...not yet.
ati love at first blog?
there are steps to falling in love...and i stand to be corrected.
1-respect
2-appreciation
3-like
4-fondness
and then after a few others-love
i may respect you online, and appreciate how you talk/think then i'll like that...and i'll like chatting to you...then i'll become fond of chatting/interacting with you...
but that's one side of the coin, the mental...i now need to respect, appreciate, like and be fond of your physical side. (and usually when you get to know the physical side, fly or not - betty's sake - the true character falls in place...most of the time)
i hate long arguments...my train of thought usually poteas...kwanza if it involves love.
ok, where was i...nimepotea (evidently i don't argue well)
bottom line, the blog can lead to a fruitful relationship, and mwangi...go all out but i'm not believing you can really truly say you are in love until you fulfill most, if not every, requirement.
that's my two pence...
PERSONALITY! that's whaat i was looking. laters
Talk about going to war without bullets
jiwe-kijiwe..nimejijazia blanks though tyou may not like what i filled it with!
lol @ modo..fly or not-right on!..see even though peeps be calling you mungiki me am still ure friend?
To answer your questions
"What is Love?" Individual answers are there for love and for this very reason there are arguments about love for each mind will contradict the answer of another mind. Hence "what is love" is an illusionary question, which has no answer!
"Is there a universal definition?" There is no universal definition of Love!
"Is it possible to Love someone u have never physically met?" Yes its possible to Love someone u have never physically met!
Is blogging a means to an end when its come to Love? Yes!
I agree with with Modo and I repeat the 5 common senses must be used to experience love.
Sight
Sound
Smell
Touch
Taste
You can only know you are trully in love if you can see, hear, smell, touch and taste her/him
@ mimi: sidelines hata wewe?
@ jiwe: don't get ur head swollen! I am not stubborn. I incorporate valid points so quit with your gloating ...
@ gish: well put, well put ...
@ modo: "how do you love something you can't see?"
411 - it's someone.
And your step by step is your own self-schema ... yangu ni tofauti ... hehe!!
@ anon: we are together!1
@ Kirima: You forgot the sixth sense:
"Kaigoto"
It's the trusting your instincts sense ... I have one!!
WAH...
I have been out of commission for a minute and missed out on all the fun.
I have actually read all 70 comments [wipes sweat from brow].... and I am sure everyone is aware on my stand on love... lol... But seriously... all I can see is people having their opinions and sticking to them......
I dont see anyone convincing Mwangi otherwise on his stand..... so to you.... Good Luck!
But Im with Kirima.... just incase anyone was wondering.
@Mwas: hii maneno ya Kaigoto bado sijaishika! The other day you had me googling it and you didn't even tell me what it was!! :-)
@ mishale: loool ... might do a "kaigoto" post now that you insist ...
@movie buff: thx.
MORAL OF THE STORY:
Opinion is varied. My "hanjam utility curve" is known to only one person: ME.
Thus, NOBODY can legitimately use the DECLARATIVE to tell me what I can or cannot do ... @ best, you may offer what you deem as HELPFUL SUGGESTIONS as some have tried and I DEFINITELY took on board a lot of the advise ...
BUT, bounded rationality forever governs our schemata. None of us is the progenitor of all things wise; decision-making is tenous and highly personal ...
SO, wish me well ... If not:
You do you, I do me.
CASE CLOSED.
One last word before this case is closed.
The question was:” Is it possible to Love someone u have never physically met? Lately been feeling closer to this guy n yet we haven’t met..."
This was an invitation by you mwas for opinions on this subject, not necessarily on whether to wish you luck or not on your personal love connection.
I can be correct but I do not believe there was any of the previous 70 something comments where someone didn’t wish you luck. They just gave their advice and it is now up to you to pick and choose from that advise.
3n: Like I said:
CASE CLOSED.
Case closed (just felt like having the last word after you Mwangi)
WOW!!
& Thanx to u Mwangi have finally got my quiz answered in the most honest, humorous n sincere ways!
@ majonzi: NOT ... lol
@ klara: u r welcome dear. am glad!!
LOVE - A game where both players cheat. Two minds without a single thought.
LOVE - A game where both players cheat. Two minds without a single thought.
Kame-bite!! Kamdudu...I mean Ka-bug kamebite!! Opinion jaribu bahati mbuyu...
eish eish...no wonder love is the most searched word in Google. i opened the chapter, so would u mind if i close it? well well, from the word go, i knew nothing would bend the flame of the candle you are holding. and the 83rd comment wont do that either. so wot do i say mwangi, dude, go for it...whats with life if u cant take risk. furthermore. she'd great!!!!:))
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